....... HOME ....... MAIN ARTICLE VERSION 1 ... HISTORY ... DISCUSSION .... GALERY .... EDIT V 1 Contents Introduction Keywords See Also References Bibliography PLATO II Philosophy Ancient Philosophy Old Version - 1, updated Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 1:31:10, 5916 bytes - by wlacourt. This article is for information and educational purposes only and is not intended to give medical, legal or professional advice. DefenitionThe continuation of using Plato and his conception of the perfected state in order to compare in how his idea of state-citizen relations compares to how the state and the citizen exist today. INTRODUCTION On the ideal state-citizen relations II On late childhood: Plato doesn’t go into much detail on the late aspects of childhood, rather, he gives an example referring to warfare and how a child should be introduced to such a thing. One can assume that, as with all aspects of education being transmitted to all children equally and gradually, so too should the more specific educative aspects of the varying natures and their occupations be taught to those close to adulthood. Using war as an example; a child which has a natural tendency towards agression, violence, bravery and/or athleticism, can be chossen gradually among his peers. Being slowly filtered into the many aspects of a combatants life, from arms and armor production to active battlefields, to daily life amongst other soldiers. On adulthood: Marriage It is up to the state to choose whether individuals are paired up towards the end of procreation. This is for Plato the reason why marriage exists. With religious and traditional practices taking a secondary role in the joining of men and women. The state will, in a secretive manner, choose which people are paired with which. As Socrates states: “that our rulers will find a considerable amount of falsehood and deceit necessary for the good of their subjects…” (pg. 257, Book V). For the citizens, the illusion of choice will be ever present. However, in a gradual matter, they will be guided into choosing those who share their natures. As stated before, all this done with the end of creating a better generation than the last. The amount marriages will again be controlled by the guardians of The Republic (the ruling class of said society). Those who we’re born and bred to rule will evaluate, given the volatility of life, whether the population should rise or fall, and what will be the best way to regulate said population. Ideally, a marriage will consist of citizens whose ages range from twenty to twenty-five years. This for Plato is the ideal age for women to bear children. For the men, the vital essence of life is most present. Marriages will produce children in this range as well. As for the those above or below the range, Socrates states: “Any one above or below the prescribed ages who takes part in public hymeneals shall be said to have done an unholy and unrighteous thing…” (pg. 256, Book V). The child will be regarded as an “offspring of darkness and strange lust”. Equally, this ostracization will apply to those children born out of a woman which in the prime of life without the proper authorization. Bastardy will be regarded not as an affair in the domain of adultery rather as a way of committing treason, an act of disloyalty towards the state, and by consequence its people. Once the desired ages are passed, the couple may continue their life in union, with the condition that, if a child is begotten, the state will not support him (given that the state naturally auspices those children out of certified and consecrated marriages between the desired ages. As for the guardian class, an exception will be made. As the traditional familial structure applies to both the auxiliary (protective/soldier class) and working classes, the highest class will be married as a collective, that is to say that wives and families are to be had in common. With the ideal of unity being the core foundation of The Republic. In the words of Plato (pg.261, book V): “Can there be any greater evil than discord and distraction and plurality where unity ought to reign? or any greater good than the bond of unity?” “And there is unity where there is community of pleasures and pains—where all the citizens are glad or grieved on the same occasions of joy and sorrow?” On late adulthood: Individuals are expected to participate in the fullest matter within the state. The Auxilary class is expected to behave as the main defensive force of the nation both within (by putting into action the rules created from Guardians) and without (by defending the nations borders). The Working class is expected to act as the main sustainers of the society, anything ranging from agricultural labor to artistry. Finally, the Guardians are expected to maintain the societal structure top-bottom, creating and updating laws controlling ,and maininting social life. It should be noted that the economics of the Republic are highly communal. Both the auxiliary and guardian classes are limited in terms of wealth, only getting what is neccessary to function as govermantal force from the lower classes. In turn, the lower class receives civilization, protection, justice and unity from the upper class, acting in a complete symbiotic manner. “…our guardians may very likely be the happiest of men; but that our aim in founding the State was not the disproportionate happiness of any one class, but the greatest happiness of the whole; we thought that in a State which is ordered with a view to the good of the whole we should be most likely to find justice, and in the ill-ordered State injustice: and, having found them, we might then decide which of the two is the happier.” (Book IV, pg. 275). Admitting that while the happiness of an individual is an admirable goal, one should not be fooled into believing that universal bliss should be in any way beneficial to the whole of society. Whether or not a specific sector of society is happy or not is far less important when compared to the question of: “Is society just? 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